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Сообщение Touring* » Сб авг 16, 2025 3:29 am

As early as May 2025, we were already reporting serious doubts on the release schedule for the next Stelvio. At Cassino, where the SUV is to be produced on the STLA Large platform, the signals were already in the red: delays in adapting hybrid powertrains, technical constraints of the LP3 platform designed primarily for the 100 % electric, and pressure from Italian legislation on CO2 emissions. All these factors pointed to a later-than-expected launch.

According to some sources, the release of the Stelvio has now been postponed until after that of the future Giulia and Tonale, now scheduled for 2027. This unexpected turn of events means that the Stelvio is no longer the spearhead of Alfa Romeo's revival, but the final link in a new trio.

Suppliers have reportedly been officially informed of the postponement, and orders for parts cancelled, freezing all SUV-related activity for the next few years. A postponement that seems to have been decided, although not yet officially announced by Alfa Romeo.

In addition to the timeframe, this leak reveals another major surprise: the Stelvio's design is being revised. The styling, apparently considered too lukewarm internally, would be rethought to fit in better with the new stylistic direction the Group wishes to give Alfa Romeo.

A development made possible, indeed encouraged, by the recent change of management at the head of Stellantis. The departure of Carlos Tavares and the arrival of Antonio Filosa at the head of the group would act as an act of major strategic change. The new Stelvio, whose previous vision was partly dictated by the Tavares era, is now subject to a more ambitious reinterpretation, including a full range of combustion, hybrid and electric powertrains from launch.

2026 could well hold a surprise. We have exclusively revealed the existence of a new model in the pipeline for that year. This would be the all-new Tonale. Originally scheduled for launch in September 2027, it could be unveiled as early as 2026. This time, it will be a complete redesign based on the STLA Medium platform, with an expanded powertrain range: simple hybrids (MHEV), plug-in hybrids (PHEV), but also 100 % electrics (BEV). In terms of design, it will be a cousin of the Peugeot 3008 and Jeep Compass, and we're talking about a fastback SUV.

In 2027, it's the Giulia sedan's turn for a makeover. But don't call it a sedan anymore: this new generation will adopt a slightly raised, fastback styling, in line with the current trend for Stellantis (and above all, probably to make room for a large battery). It will be based on the STLA Large platform, produced at Cassino, and should benefit from the Group's most powerful engines, namely the 1.6L and 2.0L in their various electrified variants, in addition to 100 % electric. And remember, it will have a side license plate.

Postponed several times, the new Stelvio could finally arrive in 2028. It too will be based on the STLA Large platform and manufactured in Cassino. It will be slightly longer than the current Stelvio, and will be a premium, top-of-the-range D-SUV. It will offer a full range of electrified powertrains, from MHEV to BEV.

Alfa Romeo has no intention of abandoning the C-segment. A compact model, which could be called Alfetta or Giulietta, would arrive in 2029. Produced at Pomigliano d'Arco, this C-crossover will be based on a lengthened version of the STLA Small platform, to compete with a certain Cupra Formentor, Italian-style of course.

At the top end of the range, an E-SUV project is still in the works. Unofficially called the E-Jet, this large crossover could be produced in the USA at a Stellantis plant (because of customs duties). Its STLA Large platform would offer both powerful powertrains and a comfortable electric range. If it were to coexist with the future Stelvio, this E-jet would be 4.9 meters long.

Stellantis now intends to make HEV, PHEV and BEV powertrains available on all models, with 1.2L and 1.6L engines on the STLA Small and Medium platforms, and 1.6L and 2.0L on the STLA Large. A multi-energy approach designed to meet the needs of all markets and regulations, from Europe to the USA.
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Re: Fiat Group. Достижения/неудачи

Сообщение denny_dev » Ср авг 20, 2025 2:50 pm

ой вэй. Новая тонале, новая джулия, новый стельвио, а еще и что-то мелкое типо джульетты.. И всего-то подождать. Три года. Обещанного столько и ждут. А там либо ишак, либо эмир.

В принципе, моей Юльке вот только-только 3 года стукнуло, еще в самом соку дамочка :)
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Re: Fiat Group. Достижения/неудачи

Сообщение Vit155 » Чт авг 21, 2025 9:39 pm

Да, каждые 3-4 года появляется планов громадье, типа мы ща тут понаделаем, поднимемся, а потом будет ве как обычно... По сути кроме Джулии, ничего за последние 25-30 лет так и не сделали. Ну, за исключением явных штучных раритетов типа 8С или 33 Stradale. Если уж у VW с Porcshe проблемы, то что ожидать от Fiat Peugeot....
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Re: Fiat Group. Достижения/неудачи

Сообщение Touring* » Пт авг 22, 2025 3:44 am

За последние 50 с лишним из нового только нынешняя Джулия достойная, да.

В свежем ролике альфовского музея рассказывается реальная история создания 75-й. Так вот, когда инженера Хруска, технического консультанта Альфы начиная с 40-х, и "папы" Альфасюда, спросили, что он думает о ней, он сказал, что это Альфетта наконец-то доведённая до того состояния которое должно было быть у той в 72-м году, во время её дебюта. Так что пожалуй 1972-й и потом аж 2016-й.
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